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Last Login: 12/12/2009 7:41:35 p.m.
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| Isn't it time we got rid of MMP (More Morons in Parliament or More Members Perks depending on how you want to look at it) and the buffoons that insist on draining taxpayer funds to treat themselves and their trophy girlfriends to overseas trips?
How we do not already have more people calling for Mr. Hide to be dismissed along with Harawira for gross misappropriation of state funds and abuse of privilege is quite beyond me.
It's obvious that it's Rodney that's never actually done anything - aside from attempt to totally screw the Auckland councils transition over, in spite of his quite frankly disgusting comments.
MMP is giving idiots like Roger Douglas, Rodney Hide and Heather Roy totally disproportionate representation in the house which they have only gained through support in a largely insignificant electorate (yes Epsom dwellers, that's aimed at you) to the detriment of 99.997% of the country.
FPP worked, and, continues to work in countries the world over. The likes of MMP and STV are used simply as a way to gain such disproportionate representation or confuse voters into giving support where they clearly do not want to.
Ditch MMP, and the parasitic worms of ACT that wangled their way into the house on it's coat tails. |
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| So I take it by your posts that you don't like ACT then  In regards to the travel costs....you only know about it because Rodney exposed the system...way back. It's the system they work in...I know you'd do it if you had the job. They work all the time ...like no other occupation. the system allows them to claim these benefits as part of their employment contract. Thats what needs changing. Do agree though that these minor parties do have huge influence considering the votes they get. It's a good show ......but at our expense.
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| ACT have managed to tar themselves with poor media coverage of late, I'm a sucker for following with popular opinion 
I do appreciate that Rodney has outed an awful lot of government waste in his time, I held him in fairly high regard for a long time based almost entirely on that principle. I'm in a job where we do have the opportunity to take a few travel perks, it's a government role of sorts as well. I can say, without word of a lie that I haven't been tempted - it goes against a number of morals I have on the situation. MP's are not the only ones that work 'Tirelessly' - I'm doing 18 hour days for a school that desperately needs more funding as the cost of providing education increases, It bugs me to see MP's using money in that manner that would be of far greater use in other sectors - healthcare for one.
The system of perks, I think, needs considerable review in the current economic climate. I think the thing I find hardest to believe about the whole situation is that it has taken Mr. Hide this long to assess what he was doing and what impact it has had. Instead of apologizing, surely consideration should have been given prior to his wee junket. I do appreciate seeing him try to make amends for his mistake though when so many others in the political sphere would stay on the defensive until it blew over and not budge.
It doesn't take away from the fact however that parties such as ACT, United Future, Anderton and others have so much political sway when they represent such a small portion of the population. I understand that's what MMP was intended to provide - better representation across the spectrum - however, I think it's been taken too far by some in holding governments to ransom over a range of issues. |
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| | I actually think that we should be looking at cutting back on parlimant seats, the advantage's of having MMP is far greater than not having MMP. All NZ people will not get to have there say if MMP is dissolved. The outcome of FPP such as Labour only National only in the 80's cost many NZlanders who had potential to evolve a humungas injustice and these people are still paying the price of a One point narrow concept that the FPP government in thoese days were operating on. If we advocate for first past the post then we as a nation are allowing ourselve's to be fooled once again that strength is gained by statis. How can we as a nation ever get a fair deal by a One Party veiw policy and philosophy. Governments need to be opened up and disected and the people's vote is important, with MMP this is what we have. FPP will only be an illusion of that strong sense of order & control but the truth is Power in a majority Rules is just another Hitler under a new disguise. |
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| | This is a brilliant example of how the voters of this country were tricked and treated like idiots so that more parasites could "suck on the public teat", and take from those whom they'd decieved. When MMP was first "voted in", it was on the understanding that if it didn't work out we would get a REFERENDUM to allow us to ditch it or change it. That was the first of the modern phenomenon of "ignore what the ignorant people say, we know better". John Key has promised a referendum on MMP next year (that will be 2011 - so don't be fooled into believing that he actually meant to say 2071). At any rate this will be 18 (that's eighteen) years after mmp was first foisted on us. However, I believe that the referendum WILL NOT BE BINDING! This is despite the fact that we are told there will have to be another referendum following it to see which proportionate voting system NZ does want. Personally I don't think government will let anything happen, even if they do go with "ditching MMP" referendum results, they will "drag it out" for years, decades. Perhaps until there will be nobody left who remembers that there was every anything else other than MMP. This is their usual tactic, and they know that people's memories aren't particularly good. |
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