﻿<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>Kiwivoice - Have your say today - Political discussion nz, Political Forum nz, Blog, Cultural discussion nz, Business nz, Sports nz, New Zealand, NZ Forums / New Zealand Forum Topics / Political &amp; Business  / Demerit Points / Latest Posts</title><generator>InstantForum.NET v4.1.3</generator><description>Kiwivoice - Have your say today - Political discussion nz, Political Forum nz, Blog, Cultural discussion nz, Business nz, Sports nz, New Zealand, NZ Forums</description><link>http://www.kiwivoice.co.nz/</link><webMaster>Admin@kiwivoice.co.nz</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:42:08 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>RE: Demerit Points</title><link>http://www.kiwivoice.co.nz/Topic2056-6-1.aspx</link><description>&lt;div class="Quote"&gt;&lt;b&gt;2haz4u (3/07/2010)&lt;/b&gt;&lt;hr noshade size="1" class="hr"&gt;Heyv Brucey, i think 2nyt i just went over the 100 dermit point limit. yeah you are right... i am paying off some fines but the demrits have still been applied. aye i just wanted to clarify with you when they come to suspend my lisence if i dont surrender it i what ? loose my lisence and have to reapply? if so do i still have the 3 months stand down? and also i asume that if i cop pulls me over in that time he could suspend my lisence there and then??  ANY help as to how i will not loose my right of driving would be very much apreciaed =(&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry, I haven't been here for ages.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As far as I know when they come to get your licence (and they can only do so if they can catch you at home, I mean they can't come to the door and tell your flatmate - or who ever - "tell ..... that he can't drive for three months", they have to see you in person).  It will be cancelled on the police computer system - there's nothing you can do about that.  But &lt;STRONG&gt;DON'T &lt;/STRONG&gt;physically give them your licence, say that you've misplaced it or something (if you do you won't have it to get into the pub or something) and you will have to PAY to get another one issued and wait ages on an incompetent bureaucrat.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After three months is over, make a TELEPHONE CALL (not an actual visit) to confirm that you are back as a driver on the system and do not mention "re-applying" or anything.  If someone (cop or bureaucrat) asks, just say your licence "turned up because it was in your old wallet that you were going to throw out".  Then just start driving again.</description><pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:15:10 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Brucey</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Demerit Points</title><link>http://www.kiwivoice.co.nz/Topic2056-6-1.aspx</link><description>If your mate was smart he wouldn't have payed anything to this fraudulent government.</description><pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:03:39 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>FreemanChipsz</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Demerit Points</title><link>http://www.kiwivoice.co.nz/Topic2056-6-1.aspx</link><description>Heyv Brucey, i think 2nyt i just went over the 100 dermit point limit. yeah you are right... i am paying off some fines but the demrits have still been applied. aye i just wanted to clarify with you when they come to suspend my lisence if i dont surrender it i what ? loose my lisence and have to reapply? if so do i still have the 3 months stand down? and also i asume that if i cop pulls me over in that time he could suspend my lisence there and then??  ANY help as to how i will not loose my right of driving would be very much apreciaed =(</description><pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:40:35 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>2haz4u</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Demerit Points</title><link>http://www.kiwivoice.co.nz/Topic2056-6-1.aspx</link><description>I'm not justifying the "demerit point" system at all.  It is dictatorial and dishonest and people are really stupid for letting it through in legislation.  Unfortunately, the attitude is "get him, make him suffer, he deserves it".  This attitude is never applied to the speaker, people who say things like this never include themselves or think that they may be included in the trap.  I get this impression from listening to talkback radio, everyone seems to think that they are a perfect, capable driver and would never "break the law".  Little do they realise that the law is made in such a way as to trap them into "breaking it".  The law is truly an ass.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, you say "paying the fines activates the demerit points and someone would lose their licence on paying them".  Well that's not entirely the case at all.  It the "fines" (read extortion) are not paid within 28 days, the "infringement" will "go to court" (nobody physically "goes to court", there is no defended hearing - as there should be) and then even more extortion is applied and the demerit points are "activated" and someone will show up on your doorstep to "take your licence".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;(Important point to remember:  Never surrender your "licence" willingly, always claim to have "mislaid it somewhere" or when the three months is up you will have to "reapply" for your licence, and pay even more money and go through - what I find anyway - to be the humiliating process of cowtowing to gormless land transport association workers).</description><pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 02:07:47 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Brucey</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: Demerit Points</title><link>http://www.kiwivoice.co.nz/Topic2056-6-1.aspx</link><description>Well I think the idea of having a punitive system like this, and arbitrary laws like this imposed by a government elected under a system which clearly does not represent anyone is a breach of justice. How representative is a govt based on the detached, disinterested vote of people who do not think at the best of times, and get only to vote in a two-party race, where one would expect collusion of interests. i.e. A parliamentary system which gives you a lifetime pension just for being a parliamentary. Kind of makes you think they consider themselves 'winners' irrespective of how they run the country.</description><pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:14:07 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>shouganai</dc:creator></item><item><title>Demerit Points</title><link>http://www.kiwivoice.co.nz/Topic2056-6-1.aspx</link><description>A mate of mine had a few speeding tickets in row over a two year period. I always wondered why he'd not lost his license through the demerit point system. Here's why. Because he'd not paid the fines the demerit points were not applied.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So...just before Christmas he paid the fines and guess what he lost his license. If he'd known this was how it worked....he'd not have paid the fines at once and would have spread out the payments over a two year period so that the demerit points were not applied and then he'd have kept his license. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another shitty system.</description><pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:55:36 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>