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RE: Maori intellectual rights

FreemanChipsz — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 02:31:07 GMT

LOL Maori intellectual rights don't have personality because they are personality! (personality being someone else's property)

stop being kept in servitude

RE: Maori intellectual rights

FreemanChipsz — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:40:45 GMT

They say it only apply to Maori? well I guess I can do it too, considering Im a native born in Aotearoa, which makes me Maori

RE: Maori intellectual rights

reddeath26 — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:04:01 GMT

Firstly I did find your post interesting Crossword, however my knowledge in religious practices inside Europe leaves a lot to be desired. With the topic here however I think it is more of an attempt to protect Maori culture from being exploited by others purely for profit. With colonization around the world it was highly common for the Indigenous people to be forced to stop practicing their religions and convert to Christianity. There were often punishments involved for those who continued to follow their beliefs. The ironic thing is that this kept up until they found they could profit from the beliefs. It is in my view quite a double kick in the teeth to first be denied the right to your beliefs then have the same group who denied you your rights, profit from these beliefs.

I support a form of intellectual ownership, to prevent them from being exploited.

RE: Maori intellectual rights

Crossword — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:38:33 GMT

Well outside the fact that Wicca and Druidic practices continue since the 1300's in many areas of Britain, that groups in Normandy, Britonany, Italy, Spain and other areas continue traditions that have links with heathen religions I would suggest you're not quite right there. After Christianity adopted heathen holidays to further their own religios holidays- Christmas, Easter and Halloween all have the dates of there practices in Heathen traditions- specifically Winter Solstace, Spring breaking and Day of the Dead. I can name others.

I disagree strongly with you. Celtic heritage has been strong for a long time- bag pipes, sword dancing, particular foods and customs as examples. I won't even get into Gaulish and Germanic heritage.

The difference is in Europe that the origins of their heritage are part of everyday life rather than a regrowth of a repressed cultural identity as has what happened with Maori and Polynesian cultures in NZ. For example the calling of the Haggis in Scotland descends not from Christian heritage but a thanks to old Druidic gods. Stonehenge regularly has Wicca and Druidic ceremonies as do many similar stone arrangements around Europe. I can go on.

Here is a question- where is the original Maori descended from?

Genetically they are found to have come from a specific region in Northern Taiwan- suggesting the original fore fathers of Polynesian culture were of Chinese descent themselves. Likewise the Celts were originally a mix of Spainish and Moorish bloodline (hence the dark and swarthy skin)- while blond and blue eyed people originated in Northern Iran in the area refered to as Arya. Hitler claimed these were the people all Germans were descended from but this isn't quite true as Germanics were a mix of Bulgars from the area around the Black Sea , Greeks , Aryans and Tartars and frighteningly Mongols.

People with red hair and green eyes tend to orientated from the Northern Scandanavian nations but have their heritage originally from the Northern Urals of central Russia.

We are all of pretty mixed descent and what you consider as a cultural rebirth is considered ona daily basis in France, Germany and the British Isles the difference is unlike in NZ where one or two clear heritages regarding native peoples obviously lies, in Europe most people are descended from several unique cultures.

For example the Picts were the original people of the British Isles, were conquered byt he Romans, then the Saxons and eventually the Normans came across. At this time you also had Moorish and Barbar (an area of Spain) pirates raiding the southern and western coasts (hence the origins of Celtic culture) AND furthermore had influences from the Francs and of course Viking raiders.

RE: Maori intellectual rights

ManukauFulla — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:05:20 GMT

Most ppl around the world who could (but dont) claim to their IP rights have
had their ancient cultures "smashed"(a bit harsh but...) by the main religious groups
of the world for example in many parts of europe ppl are just begining to lear of their
celtic heratige and customs some of which have been keept secret for hundreds of years
practiced in secret to avoid discrimination from the mainstream monotheist-(1 god believers)
religious groups, i guess some could lay claim to of their traditional artwork but that aint going
2 happen for AAAAGGGGEEZZZ aaggeezz Ass (a long F***ing time),
Da Maoirs on da Udda hand well their culture as we know has been well preservd and held on to
and is relitivly young compard to celtic culture being thoousands of years old its a F***ing
wonder anybody remembers the celts let alone still practice their cerimonies and beliefs.
Still abit farfetchd the idea that you can OWN culture i mean HA!!

RE: Maori intellectual rights

louise — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:19:56 GMT

If you have a design NZ made you can register through the Intellectual Property Office of NZ, website is IPONZ .

I would be rather disappointed if there was any truth that it is just a Maori right only, I've always thought that every country had an Intellectual Property Office and everybody who had a design was protected.

Maori intellectual rights

Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:32:56 GMT

I’ve noticed in the last few years a few interviews with lawyers who are trying to protect Maori designs through possibly a patent or such system so that ‘the people’ can be compensated under some sort of royalty programme.

Obviously time has changed the original images and finding a definite line in the sand on what does and does not qualify must be difficult. I have no doubt in my mind, that these lawyers will get some traction. I’m sure they are funded well.

But…how precious…I don’t agree with it. What other race does this? Talk about going back to the beginnings of time. Unbelievable!